>> well, the basic gist of it is that it's a bit like a rosetta stone between obama in 1998 and obama now. he makes all manner of comments about welfare policy, about gun control policy, about housing policy, all of which inform his views today. um, and that's why i found the tape so interesting. megyn: he clear that he disagrees with the welfare reform that president bill clinton was responsible for. >> that's right. he says in his own words that he would have voted against or he probably would have voted against the federal welfare reform law. and that's in contrast to what he, what he and some of his act lites state today. megyn: what else is on there? is there some smoking gun that we need to know about? >> well, one of the bigger things is that he says very clearly that he believes the american people do not support -- support very strong gun control laws and that they don't pass not because people don't support them, but they don't pass because their legislators are, essentially, beholden to the nra. megyn: and, obviously, the president has claimed that he is pro-second amendmen